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March 09, 2008  |  Future shock  |  3259 hit(s)

When we asked Zack last year what we should get him for Christmas, the thing he really wanted to do was to build his own computer. I agreed to "help" him pay for this, and he set about, with much agonizing over which parts to get, ordering up a carton full of computer bits. This included an ASUS motherboard, the Intel Q6600 chip, and a monster video card that had its own power input and enormous fan, and that cost fully a third of the total price. To hold it all, he got himself a Raidmax Smilodon Extreme case that featured,among other things, many fans and blinkenlights. When everything arrived, he assembled methodically, and except for the usual minor mishaps, it all went together great. I was on hand to observe, to periodically offer the wisdom of my experience, and occasionally to root around in the parts bin out in the garage for cables or whatnot.

The whole thing got me thinking. Here my kid has this super-duper new computer, and I'm chugging along at home with a computer that I put together so long ago that I don't even remember when it was. I think it was before SATA drives were an option, and I know for sure that it isn't Vista capable by any definition. What with now doing sound recording, and working on new versions of Visual Studio and Office, I got it into my head that hey, I want need a new computer, too!

Piggybacking on the research of Zack and Friend Saul, I ordered an Intel DP35 motherboard and Core 2 Quad CPU. Since I was in what-the-hell mode, I got 4GB of RAM and a 10,000 RPM SATA drive. To Zack's surprise, I ordered the same Raidmax case that he has. I believe he liked the coolness factor of the lights, whereas I'd been well impressed with how much cases these days are designed for each of assembly and reconfiguration. Plus how quiet it was, in spite of all the fans.

Assembly was last weekend, and what Saul calls "future shock" set in, in both positive and negative ways. As I say, it's been so long since I assembled a computer that I'm way out of touch. It's substantially easier than the last time, that's for sure. As noted, the case is explicitly designed for ease of access, and heck, you barely even need a screwdriver any more. Everything is accessible and pretty well labeled -- even the front-panel connectors are color coded on both the case and the motherboard. The power supply bristles with every conceivable kind of plug: I am ready to power things.

But my lack of recent experience tripped me up multiple times, plus I just wasn't thinking. When I ordered everything, I just plum forgot to order a CD-ROM drive. Shoot. Trip to Fry's. And I can't think why, but I just assumed the mobo had integrated VGA. Nope. (Saul even reminded me that he'd pointed this out to me, which is true.) Trip to Fry's for a video card. I likewise assumed that the mobo would have the, you know, traditional PS2 plugs for keyboard and mouse. Nope again. I had to "borrow" the USB keyboard and mouse from one of the kids. This meant -- yes, I believe you're getting the pattern here -- yet another trip to Fry's. On the plus side of this last, Santa Vaca, basic keyboards are cheap. With new USB keyboard and mouse in hand (so to speak), I also realized that an all-USB, all-the-time keyboard and mouse also meant that I would have to replace my KVM switch, since my existing one is of course all PS2. Guess where I went next.

Oy.

I had determined that I wanted to install Windows XP. The reasoning was not fully logical, but part of it was that this will be my main machine, and I absolutely don't want to run into driver issues. I started up the machine (everything powered up quite nicely, except that I had managed to stick a stray cable into a fan somewhere), and the XP installation process started from CD-ROM.

And then stopped: cannot find device. What it meant was the SATA drive. Hmmm. Ah, I see: XP does not natively support SATA (I guess), so Intel explains that you need to tell the Windows XP installation process that you will provide a third-party driver. Which Intel provides. On a floppy. Which turns out to be no accident, as near as I can tell -- the XP installation process is apparently hard-coded to look on a floppy, and only on a floppy, for third-party drivers.

Here's the rub: there is no built-in floppy port on the motherboard, no place to plug a floppy drive into. Talk about a head-scratcher. So, options. I could get a floppy controller card. Seems like overkill to install one measly driver. Or to heck with XP, I could go ahead and install Vista. So -- sigh -- that's what I did.

So we're up and running. Is he done yet? Ha. I went to plug the new computer into the router so that he, too, could talk to the internets. Oops ... full. The router, he takes only four inputs, which are all hopelessly devoted to existing computers. Well, shoot. Do we sniff another trip to Fry's in the air? Maybe. For now, I co-opted an existing router port that is not in constant use and sorted out the connection, and activated Vista, and heck, since I was there, downloaded VB Express and C# Express and C++ Express and VWD Express and SQL Server Express.

I sat down this morning and walked with some deliberation through the Start menu and Add and Remove Programs app of my XP-based main computer to inventory what-all I would need to install on the new box. The list is long -- around 30 apps, plus data -- but gratifyingly, there's a bunch of stuff I don't have to install, like desktop search and a .pdf-output printer (thanks to Office 2007) and, dunno, a bunch of little things. The XP machine, having been my daily computer for 5 years or better, has a lot of stuff installed on it that I rarely need, or needed once, or in some cases can't even remember why I installed. That will be a nice feature of the new computer, at least for a while -- not so much stray crap on the box.

I'm not yet using the new computer full-time; I'm moving stuff over in no great hurry, so I'll wait till I have the critical apps installed before I make the transition for good. And surely there's at least one more thing I can buy before I do that.




john   09 Mar 08 - 1:45 AM

I have a Mac.

 
mike   09 Mar 08 - 9:58 AM

How much did you pay for it, Fanboy John? How much does 4GB of RAM cost you these days? Got a SATA drive that turns at 10K? Or do you just take the whole package as Apple dictates it -- Steve knows best, after all -- and are grateful that you're allowed to be a humble member of the cult? Of those 30 apps that I'm installing on my new box that I use every day -- how many of those would even run on the Mac?

As for your trolling ... future comments on this blog about Macs will be deleted, so don't bother. Enough already.


 
John   10 Mar 08 - 7:10 AM

>How much does 4GB of RAM cost you these days?
>Got a SATA drive that turns at 10K?

Well, they cost the same as they do for your PC, I'm guessing, as they are standard parts. I bought two 500Gb high speed SATA 300 drives at Frys and just put them in to make a nice RAID array. There are two SATA 320Gb drives in there already. And two DVD writers - all standard "PC" parts. I couldn't justify the price for a 10,000 RPM drive, but I could have gone one I guess if I wanted.

All Mac's use standard memory, and standard hard drives. I updated my Apple laptop with a 160Gb SATA 2.5 drive bought from a typical PC web site, and the same for my memory. It's never been proprietary, if that's what you are hinting.

>Of those 30 apps that I'm installing on my new box that I use every day -- how many of those would even run on the Mac?

Well I run Microsoft Office, Visual Studio, HTML Help Studio.. you know, regular software. When I can't get a Mac version, I run the PC emulator. I like the Music editing software that comes with the Mac. You should pop into the Apple Store and try out "Garage Band". It's pretty good for something that's free.

My point is that I'm too old now to spend time building a computer from bits and pieces, and trying to find a driver that only comes on floppy, or track down the latest video card driver. That stuff was fun 10 to 20 year ago, but now it's clear PC architecture model is antiquated and needs updating. The technology is there, but Windows isn't driving it the way it should. There are some advantages to a company owning the hardware AND the software specs.

>As for your trolling ... future comments on this blog about Macs will be deleted, so don't bother. Enough already.

Well, alternatively you could keep an open mind..?



 
Alan Humphrey   10 Mar 08 - 9:10 AM

All the trips to Fry's reminds me of other "home improvement" projects. Except those involve trips to the hardware store.

 
mike   10 Mar 08 - 9:30 AM

John, what are the odds that, having just built a PC, I'm going to say "I know! I'll get a Mac!" One of the points in my post was that compared to the last time I built a PC, like, 5 years ago, the process has gotten remarkably easier. Had I not wanted to use XP, which as noted was not a decision that was fully rational, and had I bothered to pay attention when ordering, I would have been up and running the first day.

The annoyance factor of Mac-owner smugness works very strongly against any inclination I might have to consider owning a Mac. For every post I read that talks calmly and clearly about why it might make sense to consider changing platforms, I read, oh, about a hundred posts from fanboys who have nothing particularly constructive to say other than "Mac! Mac! Mac!", and are nothing more than a knee-jerk reaction to any report of any problem to do with the Wintel architecture or Windows. Including posts from people who maintain, for example, that the Mac is immune to security vulnerabilities. That the Apple solution to potential viruses is "We don't get those," as one discussion went.

I'm not going to be taunted into changing platforms, that's for sure. If I'm ever going to change, it will because of an advantage so overwhelming for Apple that it offsets the potential issues of, for example, compatibility with the software that I am obliged to use as a member of the borg. After the smoke cleared from this latest adventure in computer building, virtually every problem I had ended up being PEBKAC. And I now am enjoying the benefits of a nice new box that is running very quickly indeed, and that has many nice blinkenlights.

I'm grateful for constructive comments about computer issues. But "Get a Mac!" doesn't fall into that category for me.


 
mike   10 Mar 08 - 9:34 AM

@Alan -- yes, it was remarkably like that. And in fact, I had to make a trip to Lowe's yesterday in the midst of a home-improvement project. And in my neighborhood, Lowe's and Fry's are right next to each other, as it happens. :-)

 
mike   10 Mar 08 - 9:36 AM

John, I'll give you an analogy you might relate to -- how much did you enjoy interacting with Americans who were smug in the absolute certainty that their way is the right way? Did it make you ... open-minded about the American way of life to encounter such people?

 
Alan Humphrey   11 Mar 08 - 8:08 AM

It occurs to me that Frye's and Lowe's are both "hardware" stores.